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Question: If the SSPX is "regularized", why should anyone travel a long distance for an SSPX Mass if an FSSP or other TLM Mass is available closer to home?
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| Posted May 16, 2012, 3:16 am |
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PereJoseph
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| Guest said: | | Question: If the SSPX is "regularized", why should anyone travel a long distance for an SSPX Mass if an FSSP or other TLM Mass is available closer to home? |
Well, I agree with the sentiment of the question, but one thing that SSPX priests have that the FSSP and Indult and other such venues don't is indisputably valid orders. The FSSP has a few -- almost all former SSPX priests -- whereas all 500+ SSPX priests are, unquestionably, priests. Then again, who knows what percentage of SSPX priests will be indisputably valid five years after a deal with the Vatican ? This is somewhat academic, though, since most people in favour of the deal take the Menzingen line on the subject -- that all the Novus Ordo ordinations are valid as such. For those who would attend SSPX chapels after the deal, then, it does seem pointless to go any further than the closest place.
P.S. I have heard that a few Novus Ordo priests were allowed into the SSPX within the past few years without being conditionally ordained. If this is true, one should only consider as indisputably valid those SSPX or affiliated religious priests as indisputably valid who were ordained (conditionally or no) by SSPX bishops.
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| Posted May 16, 2012, 9:15 am |
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| PereJoseph said: | | Guest said: | | Question: If the SSPX is "regularized", why should anyone travel a long distance for an SSPX Mass if an FSSP or other TLM Mass is available closer to home? |
Well, I agree with the sentiment of the question, but one thing that SSPX priests have that the FSSP and Indult and other such venues don't is indisputably valid orders. |
Do you really believe that this assurance can be given with "regularization"? For goodness sakes, there was an article posted on this very forum about a Conciliar bishop in Germany (I think) who confirmed the faithful at an SSPX chapel recently. Up until now, most Conciliar priests who came to the SSPX--at least in the United States--were conditionally ordained, not because their prior ordinations were suspect, but for the benefit of the faithful (related to me by an SSPX priest who never doubted his original ordination by a Conciliar bishop).
With regularization, the SSPX will, out of necessity, have to stop any actions which might cast doubt upon the Conciliar orders. If the regularization "document" is actually made public, I would not doubt that buried somewhere in the details, such recognition of all Conciliar ordinations and consecrations will be clearly and unambiguously accepted.
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| Posted May 16, 2012, 12:52 pm |
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