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| bobbyva2001 said: | You use an argument protestants use against papal infallibility(Honorius). Honorius did nothing that would compromise papal infallibility as it laid out in VI.
What errors has the pope promulgated that have altered the teachings of the Church?? Meaning what ex cathedra teachings(none of course) has he advanced that would obligate you to violate your conscience and thus force you to be disobedient? How about Bishop Williamson? Was he excommunicated because the Church said they didn't like what he had to say about VII? Was Bishop Lefebvre excommunicated or suspended because he trashed Paul VI or declared some of teachings of VII to be incorrect? Were any of the bishops excommunicated for preaching against the council?
They could have stayed in the Church, been obedient, and continued to preach as they wished without being suspended, just like they will be if they are welcomed back into the fold. |
You are an idiot sir, I never once stated anything about an Ex Cathedra teaching, I am saying the current Pope has not stated anything Ex Cathedra, if he attempted to do so in favour of his errors he would be ipso facto a formal Heretic before he finished the sentence and therefore no longer the Pope.
Archbishop Lefebre and the other SSPX Bishops were never Excommunicated, that is clear in the Code of Canon Law both the 1917 and 1983 codes. You are being fed faulty information by modernists who want to send you to hell.
Do you believe that St. Athanasius was Excommunicated? It was declared against him, but it was null and void. You must disobey any order that contradicts what has always been believed, you must disobey any order that contradicts God's Laws, Divine law and the natural Law, you must disobey any order that puts you in a position that is a danger to the faith. You do not understand this and I am sorry for you.
I suggest you pray the Rosary asking our blessed mother for the truth. If you are sincere you will be led to it, or perhaps you have been led to it here.. but you are stubborn and refuse to listen.
We are not like Protestants, you and those who attend a Protestant mass(Novus Ordo) created by a Freemason are the Protestant heretics who mock the faith and put yourselves outside the Church, we are not outside the Church, we cannot be outside, we follow what has always been believed, those who believe novelties and deny Dogma's such as the Novus Ordo, put themselves outside the Church. To deny one Dogma is to deny them all and those who do so are condemned to eternal hellfire.
By their fruits you shall know them, we are on pace to outgrow the Novus Ordo within 100 years. Just like the Arian Crisis where 80% of the Church went Heretic and the Great St. Athanasius battled against the Heirarchy so we too will be vindicated and most of the Heirarchy will be condemned as it was then.
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| Posted May 1, 2012, 4:28 am |
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