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Hi everyone it's James. I called in and asked a question, I was nervous because I've never been on the radio before :scared2: lol

My question was about the FSSP and the Institute of Christ the King and other approved religious orders in the church and how they deal with the teachings of the Second Vatican Council .

I'll reiterate my question here. How do these groups interpret religious liberty and ecumenism and other teachings of the Second Vatican council that the SSPX and other Tradition Catholics disagrees with? Do they compromise? Are their positions unclear? Are they under some kind of a gag order like the gentleman said on the radio show? Just asking for opinions

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James




Posted Apr 17, 2012, 3:24 am
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jhfromsf68 said:
Hi everyone it's James. I called in and asked a question, I was nervous because I've never been on the radio before :scared2: lol

My question was about the FSSP and the Institute of Christ the King and other approved religious orders in the church and how they deal with the teachings of the Second Vatican Council .

I'll reiterate my question here. How do these groups interpret religious liberty and ecumenism and other teachings of the Second Vatican council that the SSPX and other Tradition Catholics disagrees with?  Do they compromise? Are their positions unclear? Are they  under some kind of a gag order like the gentleman said on the radio show? Just asking for opinions

God bless
James




Short answer: don't know in each individual case, but certainly officially they're not allowed to criticize those teachings.  Yes, they are compromised.
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"I realized the desire of Rome to impose their ideas and their way of seeing. Cardinal Ratzinger always told me "But Monsignor, there is only one Church, it is not necessary to make a parallel church."

Which is this Church for him? The Conciliar Church, this is clear."

-Archbishop Lefebvre

Posted Apr 17, 2012, 3:31 am
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jhfromsf68 said:
Hi everyone it's James. I called in and asked a question, I was nervous because I've never been on the radio before :scared2: lol

My question was about the FSSP and the Institute of Christ the King and other approved religious orders in the church and how they deal with the teachings of the Second Vatican Council .

I'll reiterate my question here. How do these groups interpret religious liberty and ecumenism and other teachings of the Second Vatican council that the SSPX and other Tradition Catholics disagrees with?  Do they compromise? Are their positions unclear? Are they  under some kind of a gag order like the gentleman said on the radio show? Just asking for opinions

God bless
James




While I don't know what is said behind closed doors, Vatican II was only once referred to in a homily at St. Francis de Sales Oratory as "the last council" whereas in my very first time assisting at a Traditional Latin Mass, the priest made mention in the homily of "the Holy Council of Trent".  I was mesmerized because I had spent years in a NO church wondering why the homily sounded like it could have been written by a second stringer for the democratic party.

I'm nervous about how this is all going to play out.  It's extremely unlikely that the SSPX, with it's four very fine bishops would be enough to have a positive effect on the spiritual rancidness of the post-VCII Conciliar Church.  Aren't there over 1400 bishops in the world??? 

Let the Conciliar Church continue to decay then move in and clean up the mess.  The Catholic Church must remain true to it's Founder and choose, if necessary, to carry its cross and not give in for the sake of a few positive "atta boys" from people who will go back to hating you in a few more days. 

I, for one, am rather unsettled at what is in front of us.
 
 

 

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