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I know I said I was through with this thread. At the time I made the statement I believed I was telling the truth.
I do agree that the state of Israel as it presently exists is a fraud. The Jews by all their conniving and deceits managed to finagle for themselves the state of Israel which they have no right to. It is not because of the natural laws of war that they don't have a right to the Holy Land because the stronger always vanquishes the weaker but, rather because of their rejection of the Messiah. By their rejection of Jesus they forfeited any claim they have to the Holy Land. In their insolent pride they stubbornly cling to the idea that they are still God's chosen. Because they rejected Jesus, He has withdrawn His grace and they interpret sacred scripture in a carnal way. They are like a spoiled child throwing a temper tantrum when they don't get their way.
I don't buy into any of the argument that the Ashkenazi are not really Jews. The book of Ruth demolishes that idea. Jesus Himself is descended from both Jews (Hebrews) and Gentiles. The first chapter of Matthew lists Ruth and Rahab both Gentiles as part of Jesus' lineage. I've read enough scripture to realize that race is not what determined who Israel of the OT was. The Jews of the OT really were an admixture of several different races and ethnicities. Loving God and being obedient to all His commands and precepts is what determined who was God's chosen. Those calling themselves Jews today are the Synagogue of Satan only because their rejection of Jesus and because their religion is based on that filthy Talmud.
That whole Jacob I have loved Esau I have hated is not the correct way to interpret scripture. God doesn't hate period. Esau symbolizes the reprobated while Jacob the redeemed. When you read the biblical account you see that Esau was carnal, he only cared about the things of the earth and satisfying his own lusts. That's why his birthright meant nothing to him and why he was able to sell it so cheaply. For a lousy bowl of pottage that only temporarily satisfied his hunger. Esau because he is carnal will never understand that God alone is able satisfy all our hunger and longings. Jacob on the other hand was spiritual and placed all his hopes in God and the promise of eternal life. Its the same theme that runs throughout all of sacred scripture. Cain and Abel, Esau and Jacob, the reprobate versus the redeemed. The eternal struggle of good versus evil.
Call me stupid or gullible and maybe I am. I still believe that it is naive to believe that Russia and China along with all their other cold war allies are the biggest threat to world safety and peace. We have been warned repeatedly by defectors of the former Soviet Union that the collapse of Russia and Communism was a complete sham and that the KGB was busy working out all the details of this ruse as early as 1956. There is also irrefutable evidence that Russia has been sponsoring and arming the Islamic terrorists even before the 1967 Arab/Israeli war. Why is it that all their weapons are of Russian manufacture. The government has told us the truth as least to some extent, Islamic terrorist did pull off 9/11. It can be argued until the cows come home that Israel has no right to exist and I do agree. If it weren't for Jewish control of our government and our continual support Israel would have been a little footnote in history long ago. As it stands, right now Israel is a sitting duck surrounded on all sides by Islamic terror states armed to the gill with WMD, chemical, biological and nuclear all courtesy of Russia. God will punish them once again for their comeuppance.
Sometimes I think our Prot friends might be partially right. There are numerous websites devoted to the thinking that Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39, Isaiah chapter 17 and Psalm 83 are the fulfillment of what is unfolding right now. I know that those chapters in Ezekiel symbolize the final battle at the end of time. Still maybe there is some truth in their interpretation. Just as Matthew chapter 24, Luke 21 and Mark 13 describe end time events we know that the end of the world doesn't happen all at once but in stages. The birth pangs as Jesus described them. Who know, I sure ain't no biblical scholar.
However I really don't want to debate this issue any further. All the evidence is there plain as day for anyone with eyes to see.
Btw, why would anyone want to defend Hitler. The poor man lost his way the day he abandoned the one true faith. He made race his God. What a jerk.
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......................... My conscience compels me to make this disclaimer lest God judges me partly culpable for the errors and heresy promoted on this forum... For the record I support neither Sedevacantism or the SSPX. I do not define myself as either a traditionalist or Novus Ordo Catholic, I am a Catholic period. I am simply trying my best to live a holy life in obedience and submission the Holy Father and the eternal truths as taught by Holy Mother Church.
"By withdrawing submission from the Holy Father and the faithful in communion with him, Sedevacantists are schismatic and hence automatically excommunicated from the Church under both Divine and ecclesiastical law (canon 1325, par. 2)."
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I do agree that the state of Israel as it presently exists is a fraud. The Jews by all their conniving and deceits managed to finagle for themselves the state of Israel which they have no right to. It is not because of the natural laws of war that they don't have a right to the Holy Land because the stronger always vanquishes the weaker but, rather because of their rejection of the Messiah. By their rejection of Jesus they forfeited any claim they have to the Holy Land. In their insolent pride they stubbornly cling to the idea that they are still God's chosen. Because they rejected Jesus, He has withdrawn His grace and they interpret sacred scripture in a carnal way. They are like a spoiled child throwing a temper tantrum when they don't get their way.
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I should have been more careful in my choice of words, I never meant to denigrate the Jewish people as a whole and if what I said sounds a bit racist, I sincerely apologize. I honestly never meant to offend anyone. I realize that there are members of this forum that culturally identify themselves as Jews. I feel no personal animosity toward Jews try to remember to pray for their conversion everyday. It is also my firm belief that the great majority of Jews are completely blameless and cannot and should not be held accountable for the crimes committed by the state of Israel. The state of Israel founded by terrorist gangs like Irgun and Stern was totally illegitimate from its very beginning. I also believe that the world wouldn't be in such a terrible mess and we wouldn't be on the brink of WWIII if Israel didn't exist.
I also want to correct my statement about the God withdrawing His grace from the Jews. That is not completely correct because God gives sufficient grace for all to be saved. I simply meant that teh religion of Judaism today, because it has no sacrifice or sacraments, the Jews are not able to interpret Sacred Scripture in its true sense.
PereJoseph why do you have a problem with Front Page Magazine? I realize that David Horowitz represents the far right and some people might be of the opinion that the acts as an apologist for the Jews. However, I have found some really good stuff on that website especially the interviews with defectors from the former Soviet Union.
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......................... My conscience compels me to make this disclaimer lest God judges me partly culpable for the errors and heresy promoted on this forum... For the record I support neither Sedevacantism or the SSPX. I do not define myself as either a traditionalist or Novus Ordo Catholic, I am a Catholic period. I am simply trying my best to live a holy life in obedience and submission the Holy Father and the eternal truths as taught by Holy Mother Church.
"By withdrawing submission from the Holy Father and the faithful in communion with him, Sedevacantists are schismatic and hence automatically excommunicated from the Church under both Divine and ecclesiastical law (canon 1325, par. 2)."
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[quote]I don't buy into any of the argument that the Ashkenazi are not really Jews. The book of Ruth demolishes that idea. [/quote]
[b]Theyre not.
But of Mongol Khazars from Asia, former Phallic worshippers with no Tie to the Holy Land. Does Woody Allen or Alan Dirtshitz look arabic or Semitic to you?
They dont, as theyre not.[/b]
[quote] Jesus Himself is descended from both Jews (Hebrews) and Gentiles. The first chapter of Matthew lists Ruth and Rahab both Gentiles as part of Jesus' lineage. [/quote]
Wrong
[b]Jesus was a Galiean, an Israelite, NOT a Jew, Not a Judean.
The word JEW wasnt invented until the 18th century n the 2nd edition printing of the ing James bible (King James, of course a Sodomite)
This is the biggest lie foisted on Christians, next to the 6 million Lie.[/b]
[quote]I've read enough scripture to realize that race is not what determined who Israel of the OT was. [/quote]
[b]There are different and seperate races whether you wish to acknowledge it or no. We are all very different, Blacks from Asians from Whites From Jews.
All can be Saved through Gods grace however.[/b]
[quote]The Jews of the OT really were an admixture of several different races and ethnicities. [/quote]
[b]Judeans from Edom, or Edomites, is what they were, Jesus called them OF THEIR FATHER THE DEVIL, Collectively i nJohn 8:44[/b]
[quote]Those calling themselves Jews today are the Synagogue of Satan only because their rejection of Jesus and because their religion is based on that filthy Talmud. [/quote]
[b]I also think of their race as well, of Cain. [/b]
[quote]That whole Jacob I have loved Esau I have hated is not the correct way to interpret scripture. God doesn't hate period. Esau symbolizes the reprobated while Jacob the redeemed. [/quote]
[b]No, but THEY Hate. Read John 8 again.[/b]
[quote]Call me stupid or gullible and maybe I am. I still believe that it is naive to believe that Russia and China along with all their other cold war allies are the biggest threat to world safety and peace. We have been warned repeatedly by defectors of the former Soviet Union that the collapse of Russia and Communism was a complete sham and that the KGB was busy working out all the details of this ruse as early as 1956. [/quote]
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IsraHel is the greatest threat to Peace in the world today.[/b]
[quote]There is also irrefutable evidence that Russia has been sponsoring and arming the Islamic terrorists even before the 1967 Arab/Israeli war. Why is it that all their weapons are of Russian manufacture. The government has told us the truth as least to some extent, Islamic terrorist did pull off 9/11. [/quote]
[b]Israeli Mossad did 911.
And you errantly call those that Resist Occupation and land theft 'terrorists' rather than those that are The Occupiers.[/b]
[quote] As it stands, right now Israel is a sitting duck surrounded on all sides by Islamic terror states armed to the gill with WMD, chemical, biological and nuclear all courtesy of Russia. God will punish them once again for their comeuppance.[/quote]
[b]Here you go again.. Those nations surrounding Israel occupy no one,nor have, in their entire existance. [/b]
[quote]Sometimes I think our Prot friends might be partially right. [/quote]
[b]This shows you to be delusional. They are all heretics.[/b]
[quote]Btw, why would anyone want to defend Hitler. The poor man lost his way the day he abandoned the one true faith. He made race his God. What a jerk[/quote]
[b]Hitler was the last cance that Christian Europe had. He defended Europe FROM Jew Bolshevism, He was loved by Germany, the Clergy and Both Catholics and Lutherans whom he united in a common cause.
Germany was the model state in the 1930s, whilst the USA had been Looted and was suffering a Jew depression for a decade.
Hitler was born a Catholic, defended Catholicism, and had excellent rapport with the Bishops in Germany.
You need to do alot of reading.
Start with Buchanans Churchill, Hitler and An Unnecessary War.[/b]
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