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Ideal Catholic state
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Ok, so our basic form of government will be German style feudalism like in the days of the Holy Roman Empire. We will have a group of land holding lords who will elect the next monarch from amongst themselves. And yes, we should name our nation after St Thomas Moore, it is fitting considering he wrote a philosophical tretis on creating an ideal society.

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As for first principles, remember how I said the best, or ideal government would be the one that most resembles an image of the trinity?


I would like to unconditionally agree with this statement; but my question would be, is the "best" or "ideal" government possible?  Perhaps there's some plan "laid up in heaven" that we can discuss, but can it be transcribed to an actual, real state given our imperfect human existence? (Which would make the Thomas Moore title very apropos).

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I spelled his name wrong; It's More, not Moore. Sorry about that.

Yes, the Holy Roman Empire did come to mind actually. Unfortunately, I don't know much about it as I would like save through my high school World History class (and you can guess what kind of opinion my teacher had on it).

And Kailyn, I would have to say no to your question, that it is impossible to have an ideal "State." an Ideal state would have citizens that committed no sin, in which case there would be no need for a government or state, so the ideal "state" would be no state.
Our goal is to form a government that takes into account man's sin and reaches towards an ideal state, though not really reaching it perfectly. At least, that's how it would be realistically. We are trying to get as close to an ideal state as possible, and I think looking at what the Holy Ghost has done on Earth is the closest possible we can go.


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