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My SSPX chapel was flooded and we haven't regrouped properly. The NO parishes around here are deteriorating even more than I thought possible from reports from friends who have begun to walk out of Masses. "Conservative NO Catholics waking up?"
I do not have access to a Traditional Mass and no even half-way decent NO Masses. (Think tambourines and all-women "Eucharistic Ministers" with completely ad-libbed Masses said by "Progressive priests)
We have a Traditional Anglican Communion priest and an extremely traditional Anglican parish about 20 minutes from my house that I never knew about. I have corresponded with the TAC priest and he confirmed that he is setting up an Anglican Use parish in the Catholic diocese under "Anglicanorum Coetibus". I have checked them out and they are far more Catholic than the NO Catholics and my only option. They are Anglo-Catholics. I know probably not everyone will agree with my decision but I would at least like to get the thoughts of fellow trads on this. It will be a while before the parish will be set up but once it is they will say Tridentine Masses and Sarum Use.

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Posted Jul 29, 2010, 1:25 pm
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I understand. Yes it happens to us here too. Many catholics going to Masses of heretics because no Mass (not even a NO) is available. Just keeping the faith is a great sacrifice in this age, let alone the morality.
While I by no means support your descision, I want to offer symphaties as someone who has fallen into this hereself.
heading to catacombs... :cry: :cry: :cry:
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My priest said that if you cannot go to a mass, meditating on the mysteries of the rosary would make a good substitute. If it's not in your power to go to one, God cannot blame you for it. But you CAN recite a fifteen decade rosary or something like that.
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Adam said:
We have a Traditional Anglican Communion priest and an extremely traditional Anglican parish about 20 minutes from my house that I never knew about.


This means nothing, Adam.  Anglican 'priests' are no more priests than the Laker Girls are priests.

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I have checked them out and they are far more Catholic than the NO Catholics and my only option. They are Anglo-Catholics.


They are still infinitely removed from the right path and their orders are still null and void.  Please see Apostolicae curae by Leo XIII.

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I know probably not everyone will agree with my decision but I would at least like to get the thoughts of fellow trads on this.


Hopefully NO ONE will agree, as you are making a grave, completely unjustifiable mistake.

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It will be a while before the parish will be set up but once it is they will say Tridentine Masses and Sarum Use.


So what?  You might as well start your own chapel, as you would be as legitimate a minister as the Anglican non-priest.

Look, the external rites of Holy Church are beautiful and holy and necessary, but not in the sense that oxygen is necessary.  Although God uses them to give grace, He does not NEED them in order to do so.

Hold fast, forget this absurd plan, and trust in God -- not mere ceremonies.
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We have a very large, flourishing Anglican Use church here.

http://www.atonementonline.com/index.php

I know a couple from our Trad chapel who go to Mass there on occassion. So, I watched the video (on the website above) of their Mass (which, I beleive, was written only a few years ago specially for Anglican Use parishes). It is much more like the NO than the Tridentine.

Yes, their church is absolutely beautiful, their Mass is said in Latin, and their priest seems very conservative. But, I wouldn't go to Mass there any sooner than any other NO.

If they're really intending to offer a Tridentine Mass there, figure out what priest will be celebrating as there might be a slim chance it would be someone other than the former Anglican.

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gladius_veritatis said:

So what?  You might as well start your own chapel, as you would be as legitimate a minister as the Anglican non-priest.


Thank you for your response.
I'll read the Papal bull.

But, will these Anglican priests be "re-ordained" once they become "Anglican Use" in the Church? I assume the "Anglican Use" parishes are valid? 


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Adam said:
gladius_veritatis said:

So what?  You might as well start your own chapel, as you would be as legitimate a minister as the Anglican non-priest.


Thank you for your response.
I'll read the Papal bull.

But, will these Anglican priests be "re-ordained" once they become "Anglican Use" in the Church? I assume the "Anglican Use" parishes are valid? 



Anglican orders are invalid.  So there's no "re-ordination."
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Telesphorus said:
Adam said:
gladius_veritatis said:

So what?  You might as well start your own chapel, as you would be as legitimate a minister as the Anglican non-priest.


Thank you for your response.
I'll read the Papal bull.

But, will these Anglican priests be "re-ordained" once they become "Anglican Use" in the Church? I assume the "Anglican Use" parishes are valid? 



Anglican orders are invalid.  So there's no "re-ordination."


They're converting and starting from scratch in training to become a priest. (Although, I'd guess they probably have a "fast track" option here.) The allowance made for former Anglican ministers is that they can choose this path even if they are already married. Whether or not their NO ordination is valid is matter for an entirely different discussion. : )

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Telesphorus said:
Adam said:
gladius_veritatis said:

So what?  You might as well start your own chapel, as you would be as legitimate a minister as the Anglican non-priest.


Thank you for your response.
I'll read the Papal bull.

But, will these Anglican priests be "re-ordained" once they become "Anglican Use" in the Church? I assume the "Anglican Use" parishes are valid? 



Anglican orders are invalid.  So there's no "re-ordination."


So all Anglican priests coming in through Anglicanorum Coetibus will be ordained?
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MaterDominici said:
Telesphorus said:
Adam said:
gladius_veritatis said:

So what?  You might as well start your own chapel, as you would be as legitimate a minister as the Anglican non-priest.


Thank you for your response.
I'll read the Papal bull.

But, will these Anglican priests be "re-ordained" once they become "Anglican Use" in the Church? I assume the "Anglican Use" parishes are valid? 



Anglican orders are invalid.  So there's no "re-ordination."


They're converting and starting from scratch in training to become a priest. (Although, I'd guess they probably have a "fast track" option here.) The allowance made for former Anglican ministers is that they can choose this path even if they are already married. Whether or not their NO ordination is valid is matter for an entirely different discussion. : )



okay, makes sense.
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