Author Topic: Comparison of TLM and NO Missals (Read 7168 times)

Belloc · « **on:** April 09, 2010, 02:47:21 PM »

Arborman · « **Reply #1 on:** April 09, 2010, 07:27:21 PM »

I went to a NO Mass today because they had confessions beforehand. The priest is a good priest and he said the Mass with faith; but the NO Mass is so lacking, so insufficient. And this was a well done NO Mass!

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #2 on:** April 09, 2010, 08:03:17 PM »

I went to Episcopalian schools from kindergarten through high school. What is frightening is that the service we went to once a week is virtually the same, in many sections, as the NOM; I mean word-for-word! I am not even talking about High Anglican stuff here, folks!

If unquestionably Protestant worship is the same as (or shockingly similar to) the NOM, it does not take a master of philosophy, syllogisms, etc., to conclude: the NOM is Protestant.

Caminus · « **Reply #3 on:** April 09, 2010, 11:22:31 PM »

By privation and ecuмenical intention, yes, but at the same time, there is no denial of any article of faith in the liturgy itself. Even more offensive than that is the fact that the priest is directed to the people and the liturgy becomes a fluid, inculturated event thus destroying supernatural religion.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 10, 2010, 12:13:31 AM »

Quote from: Caminus

By privation and ecuмenical intention, yes, but at the same time, there is no denial of any article of faith in the liturgy itself. Even more offensive than that is the fact that the priest is directed to the people and the liturgy becomes a fluid, inculturated event thus destroying supernatural religion.

I AGREE 101% WITH THIS STATEMENT. SO TRUE, SO REAL.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #5 on:** April 10, 2010, 11:03:22 AM »

Quote from: Caminus

By privation and ecuмenical intention, yes, but at the same time, there is no denial of any article of faith in the liturgy itself.

As this is the library, I shall simply concede that explicit denials are not an issue.

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Even more offensive than that is the fact that the priest is directed to the people and the liturgy becomes a fluid, inculturated event thus destroying supernatural religion.

As the Catholic faith is THE super-natural religion, the destruction of the supernatural within what is purported to be the main worship thereof is a bit of an issue, explicit denials being present or not.

Again, as this is the library, it seems best to leave this thread short, so as to enable viewers to easily and freely peruse what belloc has kindly posted.

Tis Easter Saturday -- Regina coeli, laetare! Alleluia, alleluia!!

Belloc · « **Reply #6 on:** April 10, 2010, 12:44:30 PM »

Quote from: gladius_veritatis

I went to Episcopalian schools from kindergarten through high school. What is frightening is that the service we went to once a week is virtually the same, in many sections, as the NOM; I mean word-for-word! I am not even talking about High Anglican stuff here, folks!

If unquestionably Protestant worship is the same as (or shockingly similar to) the NOM, it does not take a master of philosophy, syllogisms, etc., to conclude: the NOM is Protestant.

got a bulletin once from Methodists, their service is largely arranged like the NO, a bit more like Baptists, but very, very similar....

Alexandria · « **Reply #7 on:** April 10, 2010, 01:23:52 PM »

So is the Lutheran. About twenty years ago I attended (I'd never do it today) a wedding in a Lutheran "church." The similarities were many. At first I thought that they were just like us; later realizing that, no, we had become like them.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 10, 2010, 07:24:06 PM »

I remember a little after the end of Vatican 2 in the year
1966. There was a discussion among the Dominican
Priests at St. Dominic's in Washington,DC where the
church would be in 40 years. I agreed with the
older Priests that it would be a disaster.
I lived to see it. The church is unrecognizable
today even where it was in 1966.

Alexandria · « **Reply #9 on:** April 10, 2010, 07:27:40 PM »

RC, you're right. The church (and the faith) are unrecognizable. So is the world for that matter.

But only a handful realize it, so slow-cooked they've been these past forty plus years.

Arborman · « **Reply #10 on:** April 11, 2010, 08:44:04 AM »

I said:

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I went to a NO Mass today

I want to let you all know that will not happen again.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #11 on:** April 11, 2010, 09:36:26 AM »

That is wonderful news, Arborman. Godspeed :)

Raoul76 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 11, 2010, 01:29:02 PM »

Arborman said:

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I said:
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I went to a NO Mass today

I want to let you all know that will not happen again.

:cheers:

Belloc · « **Reply #13 on:** April 12, 2010, 06:51:55 AM »

Quote from: Alexandria

So is the Lutheran. About twenty years ago I attended (I'd never do it today) a wedding in a Lutheran "church." The similarities were many. At first I thought that they were just like us; later realizing that, no, we had become like them.

in other words, them is us :)

go to the next wedding, but pray silently in their camp for their conversion to the Church......little will they know that during their "word of prayer" moment, they have a woman praying hard in their midst for conversion....remember, Christ went to some rather shocking places to bring the lost sheep home..

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #14 on:** April 20, 2010, 05:09:27 AM »

Just checked out the link. Pathetic what Bugnini did but even worse what ICEL did reducing an already eviscerated and dumbed down product into one which is innaccurate, more banal, and near heretical.