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| fkpagnanelli said: | | Matthew said: | There are no formal heretics present on CathInfo; and (with few exceptions) none that still need to convert to Catholicism.
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I also reject the above for the same aforementioned reasons, and I do not accept your "God bless", since you worship a different "god" than I.
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You're banned, FKPagnanelli.
Go convert heretics somewhere else.
Enjoy your "Home Alone Catholic Faith: population 5".
Hopefully, before you die, you won't fall into bitter despair and give up the Faith entirely, and proceed to embrace the most base of human pleasures. It could happen. It has happened before.
Don't think that the devil tempts every man the same way. He wouldn't tempt YOU to gluttony, perhaps, but he WOULD tempt you to excessive fasting, so that eventually you give up mortification entirely and end up worse than you started. You need to understand how the devil works.
May God grant you the grace to overcome your errors and pride.
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| Posted Feb 8, 2010, 3:10 pm |
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| Ladislaus said: | fk,
Matthew did not say one had to be explicitly declared a heretic by the Church (i.e. called out by name). If you were to argue that someone who came on the forum claiming that Christ did not bodily rise from the dead but that the Apostles merely had a spiritual resurrection experience was a heretic, I don't think that you'd have anyone here disagreeing with you. Where there's a problem is in your raising personal theological conclusions to the level of dogma and in declaring those who arrive at different conclusions to be heretics.
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Exactly.
Of course a forum like CathInfo has to ban blasphemers and actual heretics (like Uriel). They would destroy a Catholic forum, so as peaceful as I might want to be, I have no choice.
But anything not black-and-white, you need to give people the benefit of the doubt that they are trying to please God and be in His Church.
Catholic does not equal Saint. I think that's what's confusing Raoul. He's enamored with his new-found Faith, the Spotless Bride of Christ, and so he cuts away more and more "imperfection" -- more and more humans -- until he's left with little outside of himself.
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| Posted Feb 8, 2010, 3:12 pm |
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| Ladislaus said: | Does that mean I have to stop calling CM and fk formal heretics who will surely burn in hell?
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No, it does not.
There might be a few whackos on CathInfo, even some who aren't very Catholic at all (remember Uriel?) and might deserve the Heretic label.
But that's a FEW -- less than 1/2 of 1 percent -- NOT NINETY-NINE PERCENT OF THE BOARD. Anyone who thinks that "all but 2 people" are non-Catholic DESERVES to have no traditional Catholic forum to post to. They did it to themselves.
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