Jamie
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I think the vast majority of the above strongly indicates the fact that Raoul ought to be banned. I have no ill feelings toward you Raoul, but you (and certain others I won't name) cause much discontent here and your rather loud and long posts above show that you do not wish to comply with Matthew's request.
Despite our differences, I don't consider you or CM or any of the other sedes, feeneyites, etc. to be heretics. I don't agree with your positions, but I believe that the Church will eventually clarify these not-so-clear issues. If you can't offer the same good will to others that is extended to you, you shouldn't be posting here.
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| Posted Feb 8, 2010, 8:35 am |
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Raoul76
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Jamie said:
| Quote: | | If you can't offer the same good will to others that is extended to you, you shouldn't be posting here. |
Saying I should be banned outright is your idea of good will? You had said this a couple days ago, so don't pretend that you are just complying with Matthew's recent request.
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A general rule is that all my posts before 2011 are dangerous to read. At the time I was nothing short of a frothing Pharisee. Please ignore my old posts against NFP and implicit faith, both of which are true teachings, as well as Fatima and Lucy's later revelations, which I now see are of continuing paramount importance in the history of the Church.
I also apologize for my lack of prudence when speaking about clergy in the past, I didn't know where the line was and often judged intentions instead of actions and words. My deepest apologies to Pius XII especially, who I judged in the harshest light and accused of being a communist infiltrator. This was not intentional slander but my true belief at the time. I still have problems with his pontificate, but no proof of any intentional malice. I even insulted the Church itself by questioning his Holy Week reforms, for which I am, again, bitterly sorry. I also spoke unforgivably about Pius XI, suggesting or saying outright that he was also an infiltrator who was in effect working towards Vatican II.
I also apologize with profoundest regret to Abp. Lefebvre and Bp. Fellay, the nuns who left CMRI, for assuming malign intentions about all or some of them, and for saying the nuns were witches; Father Cekada and the SSPX priest Fr. Boulet for suggesting or saying they were deliberately intellectually dishonest, Bp. Vezelis for spreading a rumor about him that is not verified; I also apologize to Fr. Martin Stepanich, Mgr. Fenton, Father Brian Harrison, Cardinal Newman, De Lugo, Suarez, Erasmus, and anyone else I have forgotten, for saying or suggesting they were heretics and/or infiltrators due to my former errors. I was also very harsh on Dietrich von Hildebrand and Cardinal Gibbons due to my beliefs at the time, however, in their case, there was reason for concern, I just would not call them heretics, perhaps some of their ideas would have the theological note of "ill-sounding." During all this time, I was under the influence of major scruples, probably without even knowing what that meant, and had a distorted, extreme view of the Crisis.
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| Posted Feb 8, 2010, 8:52 am |
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Jamie
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| Raoul76 said: | Jamie said:
| Quote: | | If you can't offer the same good will to others that is extended to you, you shouldn't be posting here. |
Saying I should be banned outright is your idea of good will? You had said this a couple days ago, so don't pretend that you are just complying with Matthew's recent request.
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I know I said it a couple of days ago - and I hope it partly inspired this change of heart he has had. You are one of the people doing the very thing he is complaining about and it is entirely unnecessary. If we can all be civil to the minority here (sedes) why can't they be civil to us? Why is that every topic here ends up with one of you sedes calling someone a heretic? How is that helpful in any way?
I would be happy to discuss theological points with you to the best of my ability, but I, among others here, will eventually stop engaging in any topics that you (sedes) appear in. As for fkpagnelli (I may have spelt that wrong), I have seen nothing but vitriol spew from his mouth since he started posting recently. It is not holy or healthy.
Look back over my posts since I joined here and you will not find one instance of me calling someone a heretic - despite them holding contrary views to my own. Sadly we would all be hard pressed to find many posts by the sedes here that DON'T call someone a heretic.
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| Posted Feb 8, 2010, 9:05 am |
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