spouse of Jesus

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Is the plan to change cultures of different nations by media or war really successful? I don't mean the surface westernization and modern appearance of some nations. I mean the idea of totally changing the deepest layers of their beings. For example, Arabs, Persians and Turks along with many others are known for their emotional approach to life that makes it very hard for them to adjust themselves to modern ways of feeling and thinking. To be really modern you need to have a practical mind, know how to use things and people instead of being attached to them, have clear cut plan undisturbed by sentiments etc.
But not everybody is capable of this. My people for example, very quickly attach their hearts to things and this attachment is sometimes so strong to the point of making them zealous and ready to give up everything for the object of their love (be it a religion, a person, a thing, a tradition or an idea). So we cannot be good Machiavellians. Whether we serve God or satan, we serve our master with our whole hearts, not as a means to our own benefits but as a beloved to live and die for.
It means that no matter how much we progress, we cannot be really modern.........
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Telesphorus

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I hope you are right.
It's true that a certain type of cold mercantile cynicism comes from the British Isles and attempts to destroy all natural ties among other peoples with the solvent of materialism. It succeeds by targeting first women. Corrupt women from their natural end and natural bonds in society are destroyed.
"Make vicious hearts, and you will have no more Catholics" - that is the teaching of the those of the Alta Vendita.
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......................... "I realized the desire of Rome to impose their ideas and their way of seeing. Cardinal Ratzinger always told me "But Monsignor, there is only one Church, it is not necessary to make a parallel church."
Which is this Church for him? The Conciliar Church, this is clear."
-Archbishop Lefebvre
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| Posted Jul 24, 2012, 8:52 am |
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Raoul76


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Spouseofjesus said:
| Quote: | | Whether we serve God or satan, we serve our master with our whole hearts, not as a means to our own benefits but as a beloved to live and die for. |
That is quite a romantic view! But when you serve Satan, you are serving yourself.
You don't think Muslims are serving Satan so that they can fornicate to their hearts' content and feel self-righteous and wallow in wicked, heinous pride while they're doing it?
Who are you talking about, that serves Satan in a disinterested way? There is no such thing. Even someone serving Satan who is a virgin and lives on a bed of nails is doing it so he can feel like he is great, so he can wallow in obscene pride.
I once was at a kids' birthday party in L.A. and was talking to a precocious little girl who was about twelve. Her mother made her run these huge long distances, as if she were an adult training for long-distance running competitions. She was fluent in French. It turned out that the mother was taking money from a wealthy Saudi Arabian, I assume a sheik. The deal was that he paid for the girl's upkeep. He was also paying for other girls in various places. Then when they reach a certain age, he has them flown over and inspects them to see if they suits his tastes, and ultimately I gather he either has multiple wives or a harem.
The fact that the women don't get much of it is the way the society is arranged.
But to romanticize this female obedience is like to romanticize the Pharisees who wanted to pelt adulteresses with rocks. Or like romanticizing the brainwashed females on Warren Jeffs' cult compound. The question is, what are the women obeying? If they were to die for the true faith, that would be more noble than obeying their husbands by serving the devil.
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......................... A general rule is that all my posts before 2011 are dangerous to read. At the time I was nothing short of a frothing Pharisee. Please ignore my old posts against NFP and implicit faith, both of which are true teachings, as well as Fatima and Lucy's later revelations, which I now see are of continuing paramount importance in the history of the Church.
I also apologize for my lack of prudence when speaking about clergy in the past, I didn't know where the line was and often judged intentions instead of actions and words. My deepest apologies to Pius XII especially, who I judged in the harshest light and accused of being a communist infiltrator. This was not intentional slander but my true belief at the time. I still have problems with his pontificate, but no proof of any intentional malice. I even insulted the Church itself by questioning his Holy Week reforms, for which I am, again, bitterly sorry. I also spoke unforgivably about Pius XI, suggesting or saying outright that he was also an infiltrator who was in effect working towards Vatican II.
I also apologize with profoundest regret to Abp. Lefebvre and Bp. Fellay, the nuns who left CMRI, for assuming malign intentions about all or some of them, and for saying the nuns were witches; Father Cekada and the SSPX priest Fr. Boulet for suggesting or saying they were deliberately intellectually dishonest, Bp. Vezelis for spreading a rumor about him that is not verified; I also apologize to Fr. Martin Stepanich, Mgr. Fenton, Father Brian Harrison, Cardinal Newman, De Lugo, Suarez, Erasmus, and anyone else I have forgotten, for saying or suggesting they were heretics and/or infiltrators due to my former errors. I was also very harsh on Dietrich von Hildebrand and Cardinal Gibbons due to my beliefs at the time, however, in their case, there was reason for concern, I just would not call them heretics, perhaps some of their ideas would have the theological note of "ill-sounding." During all this time, I was under the influence of major scruples, probably without even knowing what that meant, and had a distorted, extreme view of the Crisis.
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| Posted Jul 24, 2012, 11:59 pm |
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