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Fr Cekada's 12.27 public response to my 12.24 email, sgg.org/cult in full effect
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Fr. Anthony Cekada response to Eamon Shea

From: frcekada@sgg.org
Sent: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:22:59 -0500
To: justus.ut.palma.florebit@inbox.com, eamon_shea@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: prudence, judgment, duty...and mind games

Dear Eamon Shea/Justus

You are mentally ill.

It is clear from your anonymous Christmas Eve circular e-mail that you are now having another one of your " breakdown episodes."

  Your chronic depression leads to anger, your anger leads to a blowup (in this case, your nasty e-mail), your blowup eventually passes but leads to guilt over the anger, your guilt leads back to the chronic depression.

  Remember that this is at least the THIRD episode you have had here at St. Gertrude’s.

The first episode was your anonymous and calumnious written
denunciation of a non-parishioner.

  The second episode occurred in April 2007, when you made horrible accusations in writing — similar to your latest — against Bishop Dolan, Mark, his family, our teachers, our school children generally (even denouncing their singing) and myself.

In the same letter, you then seriously proposed that I hire you to run our school. This showed me that you had by then lost touch with reality. That is why I had to dismiss you.

You eventually regretted your words, came to your senses and sent us each a written apology. It was because you apologized that Bishop Dolan and I allowed you to come back here; we really hoped you would be able to keep yourself under control.

I am sorry that this is not the case.

Had you at least limited yourself to sending another nasty letter just to Bishop Dolan and me, I could have written it off as another episode, and just told you privately (again) that you really have to get some help.

But by putting all your calumnies into e-mail (with vulgar language, to boot) and circulating it to parishioners, you are engaged in trying to do irreparable harm publicly to the reputations of a LOT of people, and to upset as many parishioners as you can.

Sorry, but this latest episode is strike three. We cannot allow you to act out publicly here at St. Gertrude’s.

Bishop Dolan and I therefore forbid you to enter onto the church’s West Chester property.

Immediately after sending this e-mail, I will drive down to the West Chester police station, apprise them of the threats you have made, tell them we have forbidden you to come onto the church property, and make arrangements with the police to insure that this prohibition is enforced.

You need to go away somewhere by yourself to be alone and to work out your personal problems.

I hear that you are back at home in Florida at the moment.

Stay there, Eamon, stay away from here — and please get some help.

Regretfully,

-- Fr. Cekada

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PS to parishioners:

  I deeply regret that you were subjected to Eamon’s e-mail,
especially on Christmas Eve.

  As regards handling awful e-mails like his, I recommend that in the future you do the following:

1. Once you realize the sender of an e-mail is engaging in gossip, calumny or detraction, read no further. This is a good way to mortify evil curiosity, and to frustrate the evil that a gossip hopes to cause.

2. Do not forward the e-mail or discuss it with others. This simply magnifies the harm.

3. Delete the e-mail.

4. Do not attempt to correspond with the sender. Gossips thrive on attention. Deprive them of it.

5. If it concerns something in the parish, let one of the priests know.

I also ask you a favor. If you happen to notice that Eamon has come onto the church property, please help us by calling the West Chester police and informing one of the priests at once.

The police number is:

777-2231 or 911

  With prayers that you will have a more peaceful New Year,

-- Fr. Cekada
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I had originally posted Fr C's edifying email in a thread in the General Discussion folder.  That thread is linked below.  I have posted the email, etc, again, in the 'Crisis' folder because it seemed more fitting.

http://www.cathinfo.com/index.php?a=topic&t=6880&f=4&min=0&num=15
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Fr C said:
In the same letter, you then seriously proposed that I hire you to run our school. This showed me that you had by then lost touch with reality. That is why I had to dismiss you.


I actually said a priest should be the head of the school.  I DID offer to fill the role of an assistant, if they desired, but made it CRYSTAL CLEAR that I was NOT ASKING for such a position, and that I was perfectly happy to remain a rank-and-file teacher.

After I submitted the letter, Fr. reimbursed me $400 dollars that I had paid out of my own pocket to cover rent at a new apartment/house (my room was part of the deal), plus $100 as an Easter present (or for some such reason).  He also apologized to me for things too detailed to go into right now.  I had asked for $1200 (to cover rent for the last two months of school) in my letter.  He gave the $500 and an apology, saying he would do what he could to right the other matters asap, and I continued to teach.  I was only fired  - DAYS after submitting the letter - after I expressed my dissatisfaction with being "spoken to" through sermons on two occasions, and for pointing out that $400 (or $500, if you like) was not $1200.  I said I needed the other $800 as a sign of good faith.  I also did not want to move AGAIN, especially when school was out in two months, I was living right across the street from school, and I had been living up to this point in a friend's den area, paying a very small amount out of my very small paycheck.  My memory for such details is rather good.  What is amazing to me is that Father could have checked certain facts simply by rereading the letters he still possesses.
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I will be copying a couple of short posts from the other thread, so as to make it even easier for some to see that Fr C is, in fact, a liar extraordinaire.

Let us pretend every single line of his "history" is true.  So what?  It would still be detraction of a most grave variety.

Why do I make it known to others?  Not to clear my name, as I could care less what a psychopath says about me.  It IS important, however, that others learn that he IS a psychopath.
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gladius_veritatis said:
I could care less what a psychopath says about me.


You mean couldn't care less.
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Indeed. Thank you.
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I help where I can. Especially when the correct meaning of words is involved. :wink:
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Catholic Martyr said:
Especially when the correct meaning of words is involved. :wink:


VERY good!  :laugh2: LOL!  Thank you for that!
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gladius_veritatis said:

To those who run sgg.org/cult:

I know there is an incredibly grave matter, very closely connected to the initial reason I spoke out in December, that does NOT reflect too well upon you.  Indeed, what has come to pass was foreseeable and natural, especially given your 'do-nothing' approach to problems involving members of a certain family.  Just to reiterate what I wrote in December: People are not nearly as shocked at the deed (I personally think it is understandable to such a degree as to be almost entirely excusable, given the mental, bubble-world you have created) as they are at your own, incomprehensible negligence.  Stay tuned...


The criminal negligence of those who run sgg.org/cult has led to the creation of a new life.  Now, I know how the Vipers of Vaudeville and their bungling, bullying, sycophantic bag men will certainly try to twist this one as much as humanly possible.  Well, it isn't going to work.  The WHOLE REASON I got in their faces in December was because of the corruption that was taking place, and about which they did NOTHING.  Now, some of those involved in those incidents have got into much graver trouble.

Yes, we all have free will, but make no mistake: This one is squarely on the balance sheet of the Vipers of Vaudeville.
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School rules out the ying-yang,
but if you're in 'The Gang'
They don't apply.
Thug kids threaten adults?
Complain? Get NO results.
Well, friends, as in all cults,
They just don't care.

School kids allowed to smoke,
The place is such a joke,
I wanna puke.
They'd sell YOUR soul for gain,
That much as day is plain.
And if you dare complain?
Your name they'll smear.

Holiness nowhere seen,
But albs are really clean!
Externals RULE.
Older kids see the lie,
Yet we all wonder why
Such crap they do not buy
Once they leave home?
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