Author Topic: Did you know Ticks were this dangerous? (Read 3153 times)

Matthew · « **on:** June 17, 2016, 01:07:41 AM »

Cass County, Michigan: Child Diagnosed With Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, Officials Say
Michigan Department of Health and Human Services officials said Thursday that a child had contracted the potentially fatal disease. This is the first case confirmed in the state since 2009.

Here is the testimony of a person on Facebook:

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Look, I contracted Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever in September 2000 in INGHAM COUNTY MICHIGAN* (*I lived there for over a year before coming to KS), which is 2 hours from Cass, in a suburb with significant deer population (the yard I got bit in used to get herds of herds in the winter time. They used to block the roads, with the bigger bucks up at front and back to protect the pack.)
Doctors are covering this up because if they diagnose you officially, they can lose their license by the CDC, because they are required to then notify them, and then the CDC will investigate all their patient records. If one thing is out of order, the penalty is losing one's license to practice medicine. No joke. it is a huge conspiracy to keep people sick, and make the public assume this epidemic is not nearly as bad as it actually is.
And this thing comes with Co-INFECTIONs which take years of antibiotics (first z-pac generic for at least 8 months, IF it is found right away, otherwise, it will kill you that year, and then doxy for at least 2 years after --- depending upon the wait in between drugs.
And for all the slander that was propagated by certain (cough) people (cough) who were supposed to be teaching the TRUTH: rocky mountain spotted fever is not "AIDS". *insert benign substitute for expletive here*. One gets it from TICKS, like one that buries it's head in your arm, for example, and causes lesions almost immediately from the site, and down that side of the body and then the other side, etc., etc. This disease, although, deadly esp. in the beginning, you can SEE tell-tale signs early on usually, unlike Lyme.

This is curable, but if you wait in between drugs, and wait for second treatment, or aren't treated long enough, it will NOT go away, and if left alone too long, you will not have an immune system until it is gone, and in the meanwhile, it will work on destroying your main joints. Even after it's gone, from a delayed 2nd half treatment, you will be left with the joint damage for having waited. I did not believe the regular internal doctors and knee surgeons who predicted this, but everything they said would happen happened. Now I can't run, jog, swim, bike, etc., etc., but I am happy to be alive and well to the point that I am today.

Not all residents spray their yards because some people who are not from the area don't get that these innocent-looking bugs are more dangerous than pesticides used to kill them.

This disease took years away from me, in some respects, because I was so sick for so long. Meanwhile, I had really awful things said about me from people who did not know me, and were pretty much Jansenists thinking they were Catholic. Everyday I have to be careful to count my blessings to keep from remembering too much of the hurt. On the other hand, I read more and studied more of the Church's doctrines, esp. the Church Father and Doctors, while i couldn't really go out and do anything else but Church and maybe 2 or 3 Church and/or faith-related events a year. That was it; I'd struggle in advance to be well-enough (or close enough to well) to attend each event, and drive myself in terrible condition at times. Some times I couldn't do it, and it was hard, because I had waited for so long to do something. I had to give up pursuing a religious vocation, and it was hard to keep a job (I had to rely on contract work). Meanwhile, as I recall, some 'catholics' even spread rumors that I was on drugs. lol Nice. And I have gilbert's so lol. this is so funny (my dad has it, his mom had it, etc.) so I could hardly take prescription drugs, so not only was i NOT on drugs, I SHOULD have been on the prescriptions after the 8 months of gen. zpac, but wasn't until several years later.

Eventually, when I got well, I did volunteer work and that picked me up. But I remember those years every day, and they are just these weird years of having been so completely isolated, weak, passing out, being terribly ill alternating from bronchitis to pneumonia, and a bunch of other 'fun' stuff --- getting unprovoked baker cysts wrapping around my main joints, etc.

On the other hand, at least it wasn't Lyme. Oh my goodness... I know of people who had this and have passed, and others who are just always struggling and never seem to get fully cured.

Peter15and1 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 17, 2016, 07:59:59 AM »

I had a hard time following everything this post was saying (likely because I lack any background information), but to answer the original question, yes, I knew that ticks can transmit Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever. I'm actually surprised that anyone would not know that; it's fairly common knowledge. It is a very serious disease, and needs to be treated as soon as possible.

As to the rest of this Facebook post, it seems like ramblings from a person who doesn't really know what he is talking about. For example, anyone who would honestly say that they would rather get RMSF than Lyme Disease is either insane or ignorant of the two diseases.

Miseremini · « **Reply #2 on:** June 17, 2016, 01:03:44 PM »

Coincidental that this topic should come up.

The Country singer Kris Kristofferson just found out that the treatment he'd been receiving for alzheimers was wrong as he had lyme disease which mimics alzheimers and he had been misdiagnosed.

Now off the Alzheimers meds he's doing fine.

Apparently he'd been bitten by a tick in 2006 while making a movie in a forest.

Ticks are scary.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #3 on:** June 17, 2016, 04:04:09 PM »

Quote from: Miseremini

Coincidental that this topic should come up.

The Country singer Kris Kristofferson just found out that the treatment he'd been receiving for alzheimers was wrong as he had lyme disease which mimics alzheimers and he had been misdiagnosed.

Now off the Alzheimers meds he's doing fine.

Apparently he'd been bitten by a tick in 2006 while making a movie in a forest.

Ticks are scary.

My grandson died of a tick and it was confirmed Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, he was 3 years old, that was in 1999. His death anniversary just passed on June 13, the Feast Day of St. Anthony. The priest Confirmed him, just days before his death.

After his death, our family received our greatest miracle.

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #4 on:** June 17, 2016, 07:01:24 PM »

Ticks also carry Heartland Virus (present in USA) and a Nairovirus that causes Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever (not known to be present in USA).

Smoke your body/clothes real good from a camp fire or use tick/mosquito repellant before you go out in the woods with which you're unfamiliar. Always check your body and clothes even when coming back from woods that you know well.

jen51 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 17, 2016, 07:41:46 PM »

A friend of mine has Lyme's disease, contracted through a tick. It has ruined her life. She has been sick for years, and I hate to say it, but it will probably take her life eventually. She is bed riden for months at a time, can rarely leave the house, and is in pain 24/7. People call her crazy when she says that Lyme's is a conspiracy, but I believe her. She has really been through the ringer. I'm traveling to see her tomorrow, actually.

Matthew · « **Reply #6 on:** June 17, 2016, 10:27:53 PM »

Seriously, if I somehow found myself in possession of a property up north (or somewhere in a wooded area) I'd take out the trees within a nice 1000 ft. perimeter around my house -- and be darn careful when walking in the woods (only with long sleeve shirts on, etc.)

It makes me want to go outside right now and give the chiggers and scorpions a hug.
...or maybe not.

Seriously, though, chiggers are just a nuisance -- they only cause red bumps or even welts that itch horribly for 7-10 days, and they sting you in the softest flesh you have (groin, armpits, around your waistline, etc.)

And scorpions are pretty easy to kill (they move slow and sometimes just sit there) and even if they manage to sting you, it just feels like 3 or 4 wasps stung you in the same spot. A bit of baking soda paste, and 15 minutes later you're fine.

But ticks can practically kill you, or at least do permanent damage normally associated with an industrial accident!

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #7 on:** July 02, 2016, 02:39:07 PM »

Region of Venice, Italy reports 7 cases of tickborne encephalitis. Article in Italian:

http://www.corriere.it/salute/malattie_infettive/16_luglio_01/allarme-zecche-belluno-7-ricoveri-encefalite-causata-morso-a6de0f32-3fad-11e6-83d3-27b43c152609.shtml

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #8 on:** July 02, 2016, 08:35:23 PM »

It has been a bad year for ticks here on the east coast.
I found a tick on my stomach yesterday.

CathMomof7 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 06, 2016, 01:07:43 PM »

Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever has been around and identified for well over 100 years. Before it was identified as tick bacteria, it was commonly called "black measles." It was common to our American ancestors as they traveled west. Since I am a bit of an amateur genealogist, I have seen "black measles" as a cause of death on more than a few records. It is also very, very difficult to diagnose.

Now Lyme Disease is a whole other story. That "disease" was entirely manufactured by the US Government and Dr. Erich Traub, a former nαzι who had worked with Heinrich Himmler. He was invited to come work for our government in 1949. At the time Germany was very advanced in scientific research, and the US wanted his knowledge. His specialty was biochemical warfare and insect vectors. He worked for a long period of time at Plum Island, which is just across the bay from Lyme, CT, where the first outbreak was recorded in 1975. Lyme Disease is contracted from a bacteria that is carried on the tick. Like RMSF, it is very difficult to diagnose. There are two major pockets for Lyme disease: the Northeast and, surprisingly Wisconsin and Minnesota.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #10 on:** July 11, 2016, 05:06:23 PM »

My own belief, considered how carefully the CDC monitors all these diseases from ticks, is that this all started out as a military project designed to create a biological weapon against an enemy. The military was breeding these ticks to spread the kind of diseases that cause major annoyance among a population. But, at the testing facility, a few dozen ticks got out accidentally (?) but the CDC is tracking this to see where it spread to regionally. For instance, if the ticks "accidentally" escaped from a Maryland facility, did they make it all the way to Missouri or Colorado.

Online there is a very complete and complex state by state listing of tick related diseases and the CDC tracks them very carefully.

It may sound like crazy talk, but the accidental escape of the ticks from the facility may have been just a test run to see what would happen.

Tiffany · « **Reply #11 on:** July 11, 2016, 06:17:59 PM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey

It has been a bad year for ticks here on the east coast.
I found a tick on my stomach yesterday.

My ds found one on his stomach last week. He had no bug spray on him that day. I spray all of his jeans and sneakers with permethrin. They say it's bad this year due to the mild winter.

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #12 on:** July 12, 2016, 10:17:31 AM »

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Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever has been around and identified for well over 100 years. Before it was identified as tick bacteria, it was commonly called "black measles." It was common to our American ancestors as they traveled west. Since I am a bit of an amateur genealogist, I have seen "black measles" as a cause of death on more than a few records. It is also very, very difficult to diagnose.

Our youngest son had it when he was 5Yrs. old. Our pediatrician said it was very easy to diagnose because it's the only decease where the red spots appear on the palms of the hands.

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #13 on:** July 14, 2016, 02:54:22 AM »

Lyme disease spread "exploding" in France according to doctors. It's a public health scandal. Article in French:

http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/sante/20160711.OBS4459/la-maladie-de-lyme-explose-c-est-un-scandale-sanitaire.html?xtor=RSS-79

CathMomof7 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 23, 2016, 10:02:12 AM »

Quote from: Maria Auxiliadora

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Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever has been around and identified for well over 100 years. Before it was identified as tick bacteria, it was commonly called "black measles." It was common to our American ancestors as they traveled west. Since I am a bit of an amateur genealogist, I have seen "black measles" as a cause of death on more than a few records. It is also very, very difficult to diagnose.

Our youngest son had it when he was 5Yrs. old. Our pediatrician said it was very easy to diagnose because it's the only decease where the red spots appear on the palms of the hands.

Not to be argumentative, but you were fortunate. A large percentage of people never develop a major rash at all and if they do, it doesn't extend to the palms of the hand. For some, the rash disappears quickly. And since the other symptoms are similar to the flu, a lot of people are never properly diagnosed.

I worked in hospital lab for 10 years. The serology test used to definitely diagnose RMSF is not detectable in serum for at least 7 days and sometimes not until two weeks. Many children and adults have died before they could even be tested.

I think the good thing with children if they get infected is the rash often shows up with a week. Older children are not so fortunate, and sometimes adults suffer very much before diagnosis.