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What did the predecessors of anti-pope Pius V think of the infamous author of Ex omnibus afflictionibus?

From this page we read:

"Ghisleri, a wise and faithful guardian of Catholic doctrine, himself came to be suspected by Pope Paul IV, "his mind ever darker and violent" (Pastor).  In the early August of 1559 he had given lodging to an envoy of Carranza and for that sole reason Paul IV spent half an hour hurling abuse at him during a Consistory.  To the embarrassment of those present, the Pope insulted him, declared him unworthy of the purple and threatened to lock him up in Castle Sant'Angelo.  Ghisleri listened in silence to the humiliating attack.  Already on a previous occasion the Pope had called him "Lutheran" and "unfrocked priest", an odd ordeal for the man who was to become the patron saint of the Holy Office.  Things, however, were to go even worse with the new Pope, Gianangelo de' Medici, elected as Pius IV in January, 1560.  Not only was Ghisleri sacked from his post as Inquisitor General because of their disagreements but he was also deprived of his apartment in the Vatican."


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It appears someone is actually listening!  Here is what he has to say!
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Seriously - where do these nutcases come from? All three people on here have branded sainted Popes as anti-Popes (including CM in his recent declaration that Saint Pius X was one).

Madness I tell you.

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Anticlimax and crashnet are Pope Augustine in other forms. He runs www.romancatholicism.net. I just checked it and it has changed. It used to claim to be a Jansenist website and now it is the home site of the new "Pope," Boniface X, also known as -- you guessed it -- Pope Augustine.

What is scary about this guy is how much energy he has poured into his routine. When he had the Jansenist website up there was very little to tip you off that he wasn't dead serious. He even had a copy of Augustinus up, the book by Cornelius Jansen.


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The name "Anticlimax" and his avatar leave me with a very ominous feeling.

When he is Pope Augustine he appears to be parodying yours truly and my dreams of monarchical restoration. I have a feeling he saw me talking about being part-Spanish and that is why he refers to Spain a lot, like with "The Royal Court of Castile" or in the name "monkofspain."

As Anticlimax/crashnet the parody is aimed more at the likes of CM and Richard Ibranyi. The theory that our modern decay began with the Renaissance Popes is the one espoused by Ibranyi, and I fell prey to it for a while.
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moral decay doeth not a heretic make 100% of time.....to declar Pius V a heretic and/or antipope is rather asinine of him.....then again, nothing new....
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Jamie said:
Seriously - where do these nutcases come from?  All three people on here have branded sainted Popes as anti-Popes (including CM in his recent declaration that Saint Pius X was one).

Madness I tell you.


I agree with you. Anyone who says Pius V and X or any other good Pope was an anti-Pope has completely lost their mind.
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Anticlímax said:
Clearly, the moral decay, especially among the popes of the Renaissance, and the idolatry of Scholastic culminated in the perversion of Catholic doctrine in heresies that only sustained criticism from those who saw that besides the unwillingness of some popes, there was the whisper of Satan. Antipope Pius V was only the first of the anti-augustinian heretics, which is also added to the modern apostates.

The wrath of Pope Paul IV represented nothing more than the awakening of his conscience before the suspicion of infidelity to Christ. The Holy Spirit certainly alerted him to take some steps. What about Pope Pius IV, it is clear that he acted with caution, so he sentenced Michael Bayus to keep silent so that we can not say that Pius IV acted entirely wrong. I believe that Pius IV represented a transition, if that can be imagined, since he was a legitimate pope. However, unlike his predecessor, Pius V made concessions with Satan.


Where in the world did you get the crazy idea that Pius V made concessions with Satan? The Pope who helped create the Traditional Latin Mass made concessions with Satan? Please!
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Raoul also has implied that St Pius X is an anti-pope.
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Anticlímax said:
SpiritusSanctus said:
Anticlímax said:
Clearly, the moral decay, especially among the popes of the Renaissance, and the idolatry of Scholastic culminated in the perversion of Catholic doctrine in heresies that only sustained criticism from those who saw that besides the unwillingness of some popes, there was the whisper of Satan. Antipope Pius V was only the first of the anti-augustinian heretics, which is also added to the modern apostates.

The wrath of Pope Paul IV represented nothing more than the awakening of his conscience before the suspicion of infidelity to Christ. The Holy Spirit certainly alerted him to take some steps. What about Pope Pius IV, it is clear that he acted with caution, so he sentenced Michael Bayus to keep silent so that we can not say that Pius IV acted entirely wrong. I believe that Pius IV represented a transition, if that can be imagined, since he was a legitimate pope. However, unlike his predecessor, Pius V made concessions with Satan.


Where in the world did you get the crazy idea that Pius V made concessions with Satan? The Pope who helped create the Traditional Latin Mass made concessions with Satan? Please!


Only a demon could want to plaster the liturgy. The Traditional Latin Mass is a pantomime for the blind.


So what exactly is the correct liturgy? 

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