A fair question.
I would like to ask a fair question; one that it seems others are starting to ask also.
That is, as the brave SSPX Resistance Priests and faithful who have stood up for the true legacy and fight of Archbishop Lefebvre (ABL) against modernism, the synthesis of all heresies, which the SSPX under the present leadership has been compromising to, and these brave Priests and faithful have put themselves in a humbling yet courageous position to now call out [their] superiors from their errors of going down the wrong road ABL had warned them about, as well as, from the Providence shown from the 9-other traditional groups that had fallen to the conciliarist, in addition to seeing the way they are being treated and censored by the modernists from within conciliar Rome in which they had made allegiance to, these energetic priests said that they cannot do everything, of course, and have asked us to help them to organize the fight we are all in danger with; and together communicate the needs, resources, and talents, like any Catholic legion would do, to fight for Christ the King.
One of the ways to do that is to form Catholic Resistance websites dedicated to the cause; in using the internet, as well as print, video, and audio, to unite us in this terrible battle against our souls and against our children’s souls.
In response to this plea, and even organically happening from the need at hand, there have been some that took up the fight; and God bless them abundantly. There are websites and forums that have started with the abilities that they had at the time, and with the time to do it, with the support of many people, they started to grow.
With that said, there has been a growing concern over the last year especially, and even more recently in some forums, that the entitled “R&R” forums are being overrun particularly by sedevacantists spreading their [errors] on such R&R sites.
That concern was met with a lot of reasonable and fair questions from the R&R people across the many Forums; why is this happening on an R&R site? It is certainly disturbing and distracting to the need at hand in order to unite and organize our efforts unadulterated by constant [derailments] of the sedevacantists; many intentional; some not.
The assumption of these website(s) in this new sspx-crisis is that these are R&R websites and forums, if not publicly stated so, so why are they not guarded and protected from such infiltration? The same question can be applied to the Church as a whole, why wasn’t the gate watched? Certainly in regards to Rome, we would not have this problem within this crisis in the magnitude as it is; nor on the R&R websites.
To make the point and to be clear about sedevacantism, as I have written many times,
Sedevacantism is a possibility in any epoch of time. To discuss the possibilities is a good and discerning thing to do; with humility, understanding, knowledge, wisdom, and patience.
To go to the next level of judging a valid Pope, when as a layman one has NO authority to do so, and spread that "belief" to others on a public platform is not only erroneous, it is evil. "Whoa to those who scandalize the children..."
There are many good people who are studying sedevacantism, for those who conclude that there is the greatest evidence that he is "not the Pope", the same people also recognize that it is [their] private understanding and do not push it in public; unfortunately like those on this forum and on others that do.
Where is the humility to know one’s place? The possibility of Sedevacantism can be collected from the faithful and prelates to form a body of "evidence", then submit it to the proper Authorities God had established. If that cannot be done, then be patient, and let God act as God. He will not leave us "orphans".
Judging a valid Pope out of his office is NOT your place. Where is your absolute certitude? There is none! Then it is self-evident not to judge God’s Authority –the Pope.
Further, Sedevacantism is a NOUN. It is a state of being. When one describes oneself as a Protestant, or a Sedevacantist, one is stating that they have already made that judgment against God’s Authority and disposed the valid Pope in their mind and life; extremely dangerous. As said above, a Catholic cannot judge God’s Authority without disassociating oneself from the communion of the Church. You can look up the catechetical quotes of what that separation means.
Canon Hesse has given excellent answers to understand this present crisis; along with addressing the sedevacantist issue.
The warnings must be made. Sedevacantists are protestants at best (independent); and Jansenistic at least (legal determinism).
As it is that Sedevacantism is another thorn and distraction in this crisis, along with their other splinter errors, that if it is not tempered on an R&R Website and Forum, it can derail the focus of the fight that we all are duty bound in our Baptism to fight.
There are some suggestions that I do recommend for the R&R people and for the administrators in a moment.
First, I would like to ask a couple of other questions directly to the administrators and moderators:
• These discussions from the R&R members on your website(s) are coming out honestly; with concern for the overall good. You know this.
• With the many dozen other members, I too have tried for this good to happen over the last weeks especially; only to constantly be derailed by the sedes, again, and censored by the administrators; along with being slandered with intentions I/we never had; when other R&R members got it, and the administrators (and moderators) spun it; then deleted all traces of the archive. Whose side are you on?
• If you state that you are an “R&R” site that honors ABL, and you have a sub-forum, or an entire site dedicated to the “cause”, why is it then that these questions of R&R members on some of these particular “R&R” Forums are censored with posts and threads deleted, even locked, when they bring up this topic? Why are these types of questions monitored with scrutiny; like having scruples? Why the political football without addressing the real issue and nothing is getting done about it?
• On several “R&R” Forums over the years or so, R&R members have left and were “banned” because of asking these questions. Why on a supposed R&R Forum?
• Yes there are two particular “R&R” Forums I do know of that have started their websites with sedevacantists; whether as co-owners or as co-moderators. And that is fine; if it is tempered and not distracted from ABL’s mission that we have taken to ourselves. If you claim that you are 100% an “R&R” Forum for ABL, why then the censoring and duplicity?
So what it comes down to it this. Here is the suggestion. If you want to say that you are a Resistance site, you need to protect the Resistance site, or the Resistance designated sub-forum, from the sedevacantist derailments; and box in the sedevacantists and other derailers, not the Resistance from the former’s whining and whims.
So it is very simple. Administrative "rules" is not the answer. Have a separate sedevacantist sub-forum dedicated by itself; whereby sedevacantism is not allowed anywhere else on the site. Box in sedevacantists; not the R&R cause.
This conversation needs to be had; even though many have tried and are still getting their posts and Threads deleted; along with getting banned. It is none the less, a fair question…
It remains: “So which side of History will you be on?”
Viva Christo Rey…
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